Why Wont So Called Christians Release Repentant Criminals? ?
Question by Raziel_Glossolalia: Why Wont So Called Christians Release Repentant Criminals? ?
Why Wont So Called Christians Release Repentant Criminals?
Concerning Matthew 18:25-35
Please read and pay attention to whole detail of outline so you won’t give a stupid response. Their are practical forms of legislation and social reasoning that can confirm the logos behind what you may deem in prejudice ridiculous Please Don’t resort to stupid insults and slander either
Think of it this way can you say that when you’re spiritual you refuse those seeking mercy and charity and condemn those who ask for it to hell. Can you say when you’re feeling nostalgic that incarceration prevents crime and repeat offenses? Recidivism rates would argue against your flawed logic. Can you state that change of behavior and rehabilitation comes from external means or is it an internal development? That being said why would anyone believe in changing their behavior when they have no reason to and while they dislike prison it really fairs little punishment but to those few who are preyed on and many of them are divided from population(Some however are not and receive unfair cruel and unusual punishment). So why should anyone want to change or believe in god when we ourselves show hypocrisy in our hearts and actions how then can such individuals make internal changes needed for true rehabilitation that without released into society after incarcerated actually makes the public more a danger from the inmate who has become psychologically warped from the lifestyle of incarceration and given little helpful tools but to network and make more contacts creating a more intelligent and dangerous criminal
Now for legislative logos statistics show increased cost of funding in criminal justice and punishment has in no way reduced crime in fact just the opposite we are seeing a trend of increase 5 times the average we are also seeing a dramatic increase in cost and prison over crowding while sociology experiments are showing that merciful acts in state show a dramatic reduction in crime such examples were taken during the Vietnam war and drug rehab center legislation prior to mandatory minimum sentence concluding it just feels good and costs a lot in fact white color crimes are said to be more expensive to jail then a hospital bill and drug offenders on average are more expensive to jail then rehab programs Yes put away violent offenders but their are alternative punishments to non violent offenders or at least reduced sentencing The real question we should be asking ourselves is what is the correlation between incarceration and crime rates experts say their is none that incarceration does not equal change in behavior so for all our incarceration are we really safer experts say no Can we draw out a public safety plan that is fiscally sane remember your flipping the bill for these people The answer is yes many bills offering programs without sentence or reduced sentence are offered part of religious rehabilitation program even with violent offenders in church services and anger management but because of republicans and conservative Christians this bill has been shot down Also we must come to the moral realization that prison is in no way fair punishment I mean that the punishment is not equal to all inmates and that constitutes a moral ethic of unequal punishment both in Case judgment and sentencing and prison accommodationas as well for a select minority cruel and unusual Prison does not fair equal to all people You have leaders soldiers fish etc not preventing such action of prison gangs running prisons is unconstitutional under the eight, ninth and tenth amendments in the bill of rights I think corporal punishment if agreed upon should be administered by government not by underground seedy organizations like prison gangs that are obviously cruel and unusual in addition safety regulation has occurred for prison inmates increasing Co Officers and was effective in Texas but the law was later removed by you guessed it Conservative Christian republicans
Quote: To repeat same activity expecting different result is insanity. Do we not do that with the aspect of incarceration seeing only increase in prison populations?
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The Separation of church and state is just a clause How Is Church and State Divided?
Ok I know The U.S Constitution right; the first Amendment Congress shall pass no law that is in favor of any religion. but isn’t American economics founded on the protestant ethos and don’t we have to swear oaths in courts Don’t we say god in the pledge of allegiance does it not say in god we trust on our printed money Don’t we pass state laws favorable to monotheism like abortion and bans on gay marriage like prop 8 politically hiding it’s involvement as to make lies successful like saying it’s about the definition of marriage which it was not It was about civil liberty in making a amendment to the state Constitution because a law regarding same sex marriage was over tuned in four case precedents from judges in N
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Answer by Webman
A little too long for me, but crime must be punished.
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wow – you have identified another foundation of hippocricy within the government (State)
Read matt. 18:21-22 first
They would probably say that you will be rather repentant on Judgement day, but that doesn’t mean you deserve to get off….. Same applies in this world… if you could get out of jail for being legally ‘repentant” you would see a rampant legal onslaut of “repentant pleas” we already kind of see this with insanity pleas.
Even if a prisoner is sorry we still reap what we sow. As to preventing crime. There is a solution that will stop someone from ever committing another crime. It is called the death penalty. No dead man yet has ever committed a crime.
It’s all about the rules of law in this country.
I don’t know what Christians you are talking about.
We have no authority to let anyone go.
At least they will go to heaven.
“If you can’t do the crime, don’t do the time”
Forgiveness is between man and God, and as such, allows a person into heaven if they truly repent and quit their sins.
Law is between man and man, and as such, if a person breaks the law, he is obligated (according to the Bible) to receive the due penalty for his crimes. (Even to the point of “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and a life for a life.”)
It is a thing called justice, in that the crime has to be satisfied. If the criminal can restore that which was taken, then he can be released. If he cannot restore that which was taken, then he has to pay for his crime (sin). Repentance cannot satisfy justice, only mercy and that doesn’t come from man, but from the Lord.
We are to obey the laws of the land, whichever country we are in, insofar as the laws do not make us make void the laws of God.
We are informed in the scriptures that we are subject to the authorities, that they are in fact placed there by God Himself, a belief that has for whatever reason, has NOT been taught in a long, long time. I hope you do not consider this stupid.
There’s a truism oft repeated in prisons: “If I become rehabilitated, it will be in spite of the system, not because of it”.
Your either just fell off the turnip wagon or those golden mush rooms have finally took there toll.
BECAUSE THERES A QUESTION OF ATONEMENT
Way too long but the short answer, God may have forgiven them for their sins, but they still have to pay their debt to society.
And I’m skeptical. I doubt all of those who “repent” are truly sorry for anything other than getting caught.
i think there are many people in jail or prison that do not belong there. But my human rational side says hey if you want the child molesters, rapists, and murders released please by all means I have no problem releasing them into your neighborhood. Just because they deserve forgiveness, does not guaranteed them the right to live amongst people they can hurt. We can get them an island an let them start a new life and world.
God forgives the sinners sin. But, God has never stopped the after effects that sin has brought forth. The bible also teaches there is a penalty for sin. That is why Jesus had to die for our sins. My last point is many people have been let out of jail early because they admit their guilt and have changed their behavior while in prison. My point is this is not as cut and dry as your question tries to make it.
The separation of church and state is not a clause its a catch phrase. You won’t find it in the Constitution or the bill of rights!
And as far as your prop 8 is a civil liberty argument I will agree with you there. Some people may say they want to have sex with children and call it a civil liberty issue. But, I disagree.
It is not up to me to release a murderer. I am a Christian.
Have you ever heard of a con artist? I have met a few. Have you ever heard of jail house religion? I have met a few of them since I have ministered to many behind bars and saw that most of them when they get out forget all about God. Yet I will keep preaching to them for the sake of the few that will live for God. I will keep going for that is my calling.
A man kidnapped and murdered my 81 year old mother 2 years ago. They found her tee shirt covered in blood with several holes in it from stab wounds. Her pelvis was broken and her head bashed in.
She laid dead in an abandoned farm house for 62 days before she was found.
He got life without any hope of parole.
There was not rhyme or reason for it.
Do I want him to go to hell? No I want him to repent and get right with God.
Do I want him let out early? No… He was judged guilty by a jury of his peers and found guilty. Sentence was passed and justice done. He should reap what he has sown.
He should pay the price. That is way he should not be released.
this is very long and involved! repentance comes from within and a desire to be the best a person can be. often the criminal offense is borne of ignorance and lack of education. if the criminal is incarcerated the result can go 1 or 2 ways. either they can be influenced by others who do not seek repentance frmo within thus recreating their crimes ongoing OR they will use the time constructively, look within, change the inner modules so they can begin anew with repntance being one of their lessons.
when repentance is visible the criminal may be accepted and their ethos worked with.
if repentance is not apparent then the state (God) will rule that the criminal stay longer in incarceration until a change is perceived or …
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